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Christendom Blogosis on Tue, 27th Sep 2005 10:43


God & Weather / Christians & Alchohol

a passage touching on the two previous blog entries on God, the weather, Christians and alcohol

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In the Spirit of Grace on Wed, 28th Sep 2005 14:10


Christian Carnival #89: A Holy-istic Approach

In that train of thought - our Jehova Rophe and Jehovah Mekoddishkem, our duct tape that holds us together, makes us holy (as in “whole” or “holy-istic”) and heals our brokenness in mind, body, and spirit….I present this…

phil on Sun, 18th Jun 2006 11:11


What a great job it must be to be God. He gets all the credit when things go good, and none of the blame when things go bad. Who wouldn’t want the job? Wake up and smell the coffee. You believe in whatever god that you choose and you do so because you are scared. Fear, in whatever form that may take, is the reason for your faith. Any belief based on fear is mental cowardice. Be brave and face life and death whatever it may bring. Seek justice in this world as best you can.

BA on Sun, 18th Jun 2006 12:36


Phil,

You must be reading something I didn’t write. God gets all the glory all the time (from me). Blame is a poor choice of words since it can suggest “fault” and God is without fault.

Funny you should say “whatever god that you choose” since you are are making a choice NOT to believe in God…one might say that is a choice of fear and/or selfishness.

However, I can assure you that my faith is not based on fear but on love (the love of Christ).

May the Lord have mercy on you.

AMDG

phil on Mon, 19th Jun 2006 21:33


You assume that I don’t believe in God. I don’t believe in the god that you do, but your god is the father of Jesus (or however the trinity wants to be interpreted) and that god, according to your scriptures, says that “fear of God is the beginning of knowledge”. If this is true then you must not know anything because you don’t fear God.
By the way, is not the God of the Old Testament the same God that the Muslims call Allah?
I seriously doubt that you would believe in God if you knew you would not burn in Hell if you didn’t. You can love Jesus all you want, but his love is based on fear. The fear comes first, the love second. Think about it.
I live my life in such a way that I only need one commandment, not ten. That is, to be as honest and as fair with others as I can be. If that isn’t good enough for your god, then I don’t need that god’s mercy.
Everybody chooses their god to believe in. If you are like most people, you chose the god of your parents. Had you been born in the Middle East to Muslim parents you would call him Allah.
Dare to be different. A God worthy of your love will judge you not upon what you believe about him, but upon what you do to others. The thought and the act are separate and distinct things.

phil on Sun, 2nd Jul 2006 20:30


Why hasn’t anyone replied to my last message of June 19th. Most of you so called Christians really are a bunch of sheep. If I were a Christian I would feel guilty as hell for letting these fundamentalist right wingers even call themselves “Christian”. I would make it my priority to rid my religion of these F***ing idiots once and for all. In any religion it is they who get most of the attention because they make the most noise. They are responsible for most of what gives religion a bad name in the eyes of the rest of us. Get rid of them or they will destroy your religion and the rest of us in the process. If I were Jesus I would be itching to return just so I could give these fools their just reward. Jesus, if you are reading this, PLEASE come back immediately and rid us of the likes of Falwell, Robertson, all those faith healer phonies, Bin Laden, etc. Maybe save Swaggart. He sings good and would be good in the choir up there. Besides, he can really be funny at times. Somebody PLEASE reply, I have much to discuss and not a lot of time to do it. You mainstream Christians need to get some guts and help Jesus out like he asked instead of worrying about your own little problems. Don’t let them preachers scare you into inaction. Most of them are just along for the ride anyway. If you can’t find the courage to even reply, at least, I beg you, direct me to a blog with some Christians with some balls.

phil on Sun, 2nd Jul 2006 20:46


Oh, one more thing. I don’t know how you people feel about the war in Iraq, but I can’t stand Bush and think he’s a complete idiot. Probably brain cell deficient from too much alcohol in his early years. But now that they got us into this mess these neocons you people are mostly responsible for putting into office need some advice on how to get us out. What we need to do is educate the muslim women so they learn about equality of the sexes and make them stop letting their men screw over them like they are. It would be faster just to arm some of the smarter ones to the teeth and let them do the work for us. That religion of theirs is being hijacked by the fundamentalist extremists and they need to do their own dirty work. At the very least, we shouldn’t get out of there until we get the 400 billion we from their oil revenue that we sunk into there so far and the neocons said we would. I don’t want our kids to have died in vain.

BA on Sun, 2nd Jul 2006 22:43


Phil,

I like to let everyone comment but there are limits. If you decide to abuse that freedom then I will just block your comments. Keep it clean and on topic.

There are plenty of sounding boards on the internet if that is what you are looking for (it isn’t this blog). Real Christians serve Christ and have goals to be Christ-like…which does not mean an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

AMDG

phil on Mon, 3rd Jul 2006 11:12


I am not sure what your topic is and sometimes the truth is dirty. However, you can rest assured that this will be the last time that I will use this blog. Thank you for at least answering my last communication as I was beginning to think I was the only one blogging. Please direct me to a specific blog that I can use if you know of any. I never meant to imply that “an eye for an eye” was a good moral principle to live by. But please explain something for me while we are on the subject. Many passages in the Old Testament of your Bible refer to this principle as being the correct one to follow. For example, Deuteronomy 19.21 states that “Your eye shall not pity; it shall be life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot”. Now Jesus, in his sermon on the mount, says “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them”. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away (heaven will pass away?), not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished”. Does this mean an “eye for an eye” is not a law? I’m confused. Many Muslims seem to be following this principle in Iraq and the Middle East and seem to imply that their Koran justifies it. By the way, nobody ever answered my question about whether Jehovah and Allah are one and the same god. Please do this for me. Back to my point, can we really win a war in Iraq against an enemy that believes in an eye for an eye and we believe, as Jesus instructed, to “not resist one who is evil. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also…Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”? If we all did as Jesus wanted, wouldn’t we all be dead right now? Shouldn’t we fight evil in whatever form it takes? Isn’t this our duty as human beings? Please answer. I’m confused. Also, Jesus said in this sermon, “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect”. If he thinks we should be perfect then he must believe we can be perfect. If we can be perfect then what is all this bull****(is that ok?) about goals and original sin? Personally, I don’t believe in perfection. Nothing in nature is perfect because no two things are exactly alike. There is no objectivity in nature. The best we can do is to try set worthy goals AND ACHIEVE THEM when we can. Again, I will not use this blog again as you ask, but I would be very interested in your answers to all these questions if you have the guts to even accept this comment on your blog. Thanks

BA on Mon, 3rd Jul 2006 13:15


On topic would have to do with God controlling the weather. Blogs are different than discussion forums in that the comments should be on topic (in relation to the original blog entry). Open discussion forums usually allow you to create your own topic within a certain subject matter.

You can pose the questions on the forum if you wish. It is located at http://www.christianos.org/forum/

The answers to your questions can be quite lengthy and since the questions are off topic (in regards to this blog entry) I will be brief. Any further dicussion can take place on the forum if you wish.

To put it simply, the Old Testament law is not “applicable” as it once was. The law isn’t “done away with”, it is fulfilled. The law is but a schoolmaster that leads people to Christ (who is the fulfillment of the law). Christ and His commandments are the only “law” that apply today.

Keep in mind there are differing views on this issue in Christendom. However, the important thing to remember in Christianity is that scripture must be interpreted by scripture. If not, you have what you see today already…people just making up their own religion and picking individual verses to support their view. Christians need to work on taking the scripture as a whole and using scripture to define their views and not the other way around.

AMDG

phil on Mon, 3rd Jul 2006 16:58


As expected, no direct answers to my questions. Are ALL Christians wishy washy on moral questions? No wonder fundamentalists are so successful. At least they take a stand, even if it is the wrong one most of the time. I suppose most of you, like Jesus asked, would have loved Abu Musab al Zarquawi and turned the other cheek to his beheadings. At least Bush has some brain cells left. As far as God controlling the weather, who gives a shit (oops sh**)? If that’s all you have to talk about you people need to come into the real world. In my humble opinion the answer is of course he does control the weather. The weather is going to be whatever He decides it will be. What makes you people think he cares what kind of weather you may want? Do you really think you are that important? Weather is a worldwide phenomenon and all the patterns are part of a much bigger picture of global events. The ability of some people to think they are so important never fails to amaze me. Maybe I’ll check out that blog you mentioned. Maybe I will find some people with some balls there (probably fundamentalists).

Avenger on Thu, 8th Nov 2007 10:28


This to Phil and anyone else that may question the biblical meaning of the word fear.
I’ll start with this; God isn’t concerned with whether or not he is worthy of my love but rather, I should be concerned with whether or not I am worthy of his love. The beauty of believing in the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal savior is this; I am loved by Grace and believe through faith, anyone can believe in the tangible but it takes allot of commitment to believe in something you may never physically see, if seeing is believing, I think I’m just going to stop believing in air because I can’t see it. The other thing here is this business about being a good person and doing nice stuff, I’ll certainly get to heaven that way, who needs all that other stuff in that story book; the bible? That train of thought is something that a spiritually immature individual may think but that does not make you right. I am not saying that I am right because it is what I believe; I am saying that it is right because God said so and was good enough to allow it to be put to print.
My main point is this; Fear as discussed with reference to God, has nothing to do with being afraid. Children that do not fear their parents often display an innate ability to totally disrespect them and disregard the warnings they were given about making wrong decisions. Essentially fear is respect at its most rudimentary level, having fear for God shows that you hold God in extreme reverence and regard. You allow God to guide your every choice and you give him thanks for all things bad or good. Job didn’t turn from his reverence for God when God allowed Satan to destroy him mentally, physically and socially, Job still exalted God. Everything and I mean absolutely everything good and bad that happens only happens because God allows it. God has big shoulders; I think he can handle your whimpering when things go wrong, what he wants is to be revered for the good and hopes that you are smart enough to know why he allowed the bad stuff to happen to you. It seems pretty convenient to me that we are a society that take pleasure in exalting our own achievements when things are great but are always looking for someone to blame when things go bad.

Daniel Freeman on Fri, 6th Jun 2008 02:42


Here is a sample of the scriptures that proclaim God’s sovereign control over Tornados (whirlwinds) Hurricanes (Horrible Tempests) Lightning, hail, wind, waves, earthquakes, fires, floods etc.

Isa 29: 6 Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

Isa 30: 30 And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones

Isa 50: 2 Wherefore, when I came, was there no man? when I called, was there none to answer? Is my hand shortened at all, that it cannot redeem? or have I no power to deliver? behold, at my rebuke I dry up the sea, I make the rivers a wilderness: their fish stinketh, because there is no water, and dieth for thirst.
(in 2006, the Amazon river dried up. There were scenes in the news of perplexed natives viewing piles of stinking fish on the banks>)

Ezek 13: 13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.

Ezek 38: 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Jer 23: 19 Behold, a whirlwind (tornado) of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.

Jer 10: 13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.

Jer 51: 16 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens; and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth: he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.

Amos 1: 14 But I will kindle a fire in the wall of Rabbah, and it shall devour the palaces thereof, with shouting in the day of battle, with a tempest in the day of the whirlwind:

Nahum 1: 3 The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.
4 He rebuketh the sea, and maketh it dry, and drieth up all the rivers: Bashan languisheth, and Carmel, and the flower of Lebanon languisheth.
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.
7 The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.
8 But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies.

Zech 9: 14 And the LORD shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the LORD God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.

2 Sam 22: 7 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his ears.
8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.
9 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
10 He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.
11 And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind.
12 And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies.
13 Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled.
14 The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.
15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.
16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

Psalm 107: 24 These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.
25 For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.

Psalm 11: 5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.

Psalm 18: 11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
13 The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
14 Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.

Psalm 135: 6 Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.
7 He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.

Psalm 148: 7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:
8 Fire, and hail; snow, and vapours; stormy wind fulfilling his word:

Psalm 83: 13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.

Psalm 29: 10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.

Psalm 144: 5 Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down: touch the mountains, and they shall smoke.
6 Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them.

Psalm 77: 16 The waters saw thee, O God, the waters saw thee; they were afraid: the depths also were troubled.
17 The clouds poured out water: the skies sent out a sound: thine arrows also went abroad.
18 The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook.

Psalm 97: 1 The LORD reigneth; let the earth rejoice; let the multitude of isles be glad thereof.
2 Clouds and darkness are round about him: righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his throne.
3 A fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round about.
4 His lightnings enlightened the world: the earth saw, and trembled.
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the LORD, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Job 36: 26 Behold, God is great, and we know him not, neither can the number of his years be searched out.
27 For he maketh small the drops of water: they pour down rain according to the vapour thereof:
28 Which the clouds do drop and distil upon man abundantly.
29 Also can any understand the spreadings of the clouds, or the noise of his tabernacle?
30 Behold, he spreadeth his light upon it, and covereth the bottom of the sea.
31 For by them judgeth he the people; he giveth meat in abundance.

Job 37: 5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.
6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength.
7 He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work.
8 Then the beasts go into dens, and remain in their places.
9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north.
10 By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened.
11 Also by watering he wearieth the thick cloud: he scattereth his bright cloud:
12 And it is turned round about by his counsels: that they may do whatsoever he commandeth them upon the face of the world in the earth.
13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy.

Job 38: 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Job 28: 23 God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place thereof.
24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;
25 To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure.
26 When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:
27 Then did he see it, and declare it; he prepared it, yea, and searched it out.
28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Mark 4: 40 And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
41 And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?

Mt 8: 26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

Wildfires
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Dt 32: 22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.
24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

Ezek 20: 47 And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming flame shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein.
48 And all flesh shall see that I the LORD have kindled it: it shall not be quenched.

Ezek 15: 7 And I will set my face against them; they shall go out from one fire, and another fire shall devour them; and ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I set my face against them.

Jer 17: 27 But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.

Jer 21: 14 But I will punish you according to the fruit of your doings, saith the LORD: and I will kindle a fire in the forest thereof, and it shall devour all things round about it.

Jer 50: 31 Behold, I am against thee, O thou most proud, saith the Lord GOD of hosts: for thy day is come, the time that I will visit thee.
32 And the most proud shall stumble and fall, and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle a fire in his cities, and it shall devour all round about him.

Isa 66: 15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

Hosea 8: 14 For Israel hath forgotten his Maker, and buildeth temples; and Judah hath multiplied fenced cities: but I will send a fire upon his cities, and it shall devour the palaces thereof.

Volcanoes
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Isa 64: 1 Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence,
2 As when the melting fire burneth, the fire causeth the waters to boil, to make thy name known to thine adversaries, that the nations may tremble at thy presence!
3 When thou didst terrible things which we looked not for, thou camest down, the mountains flowed down at thy presence.

Nathan 1: 5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Micah 1: 3 For, behold, the LORD cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth.
4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.

Earthquakes
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Ezek 38: 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

Mt 27: 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

Mt 28: 2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

Acts 16: 25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.
26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one’s bands were loosed.

Num 16: 30 But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.
31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them:
32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.
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So God’s word is very very clear. God alone is sovereign over the weather. This is one of the most clearly declared doctrines of the whole bible, and yet most professing christians deny it. It’s amazing to hear them say “God is in control, God is in Control!”
Until God smites them with a tornado, then it’s “mother natures wrath” Pity!

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