Comments on: The Foolishness of the Gospel http://www.pantokrator.org/2005/08/25/the-foolishness-of-the-gospel/ Pantokrator.org ~ The Christianos.org Blog ~ 2 Timothy 4:2 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:38:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: blestwithsons http://www.pantokrator.org/2005/08/25/the-foolishness-of-the-gospel/#comment-131 blestwithsons Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:05:28 +0000 http://www.pantokrator.org/?p=64#comment-131 Forgot to close my html tag! Oops! Forgot to close my html tag! Oops!

]]> By: blestwithsons http://www.pantokrator.org/2005/08/25/the-foolishness-of-the-gospel/#comment-129 blestwithsons Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:09:15 +0000 http://www.pantokrator.org/?p=64#comment-129 I think about this a lot. I love apologetics and logical arguments...but I'm not sure how useful they are in winning someone to Christ. No matter how much "evidence" you give - they can always come up with an argument for why not to believe. No one comes unless the Spirit draws him... I also think that the desire not to appear foolish leads many Christians to rely on "logical argument" instead of the Scripture. <i> well I can't just use Scripture - they don't believe Scripture and I'll look silly." But the Bible tells us that faith comes by hearing the word of God. (and don't forget Hebrews 4:12!)</i> I think about this a lot. I love apologetics and logical arguments…but I’m not sure how useful they are in winning someone to Christ. No matter how much “evidence” you give - they can always come up with an argument for why not to believe. No one comes unless the Spirit draws him…

I also think that the desire not to appear foolish leads many Christians to rely on “logical argument” instead of the Scripture. well I can’t just use Scripture - they don’t believe Scripture and I’ll look silly.” But the Bible tells us that faith comes by hearing the word of God. (and don’t forget Hebrews 4:12!)

]]> By: Bobby http://www.pantokrator.org/2005/08/25/the-foolishness-of-the-gospel/#comment-122 Bobby Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:23:19 +0000 http://www.pantokrator.org/?p=64#comment-122 Excellent article Brian! I believe, and argue (in my Master's thesis) that the Corinthian church was in fact the ones Paul was chastizing. The church had embraced a man-centered wisdom (wisdoms) that had caused them to operate in weakness and foolishness evinced by the schisms--and in the various other issues Paul addresses throughout the rest of the epistle (sexual immorality I Cor 5; misuse/abuse of spiritual gifts I Cor 12--14; etc.). I think if Paul was alive today, he would write the same letter to the church today (but wait he has through God's foresight to have this letter penned to Corinth :). The message of the cross is instrumental, in other words it offers "real" exemplifies God's wisdom, sin qua none, as it offers "real" power to live the Christian life aright. I wish the Western church would bow the knee, for real, to the cross of Christ. Anyway, in response to your post here I posted the beginning part of my thesis--I think this passage has such pertinent value for where we are today. Excellent article Brian! I believe, and argue (in my Master’s thesis) that the Corinthian church was in fact the ones Paul was chastizing. The church had embraced a man-centered wisdom (wisdoms) that had caused them to operate in weakness and foolishness evinced by the schisms–and in the various other issues Paul addresses throughout the rest of the epistle (sexual immorality I Cor 5; misuse/abuse of spiritual gifts I Cor 12–14; etc.). I think if Paul was alive today, he would write the same letter to the church today (but wait he has through God’s foresight to have this letter penned to Corinth :).

The message of the cross is instrumental, in other words it offers “real” exemplifies God’s wisdom, sin qua none, as it offers “real” power to live the Christian life aright. I wish the Western church would bow the knee, for real, to the cross of Christ.

Anyway, in response to your post here I posted the beginning part of my thesis–I think this passage has such pertinent value for where we are today.

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